Do all compact cranks 50/34 require 2 shifts to make a switch? I have ultegra F and R derailleur with a 11-23 cassette. I like to run the set up so that I get all 10 gears on both chainrings even thought you are not suppose cross extremes. I almost never use the small ring I bet 90% of the time I live on the big ring. I also do not cross chain the extreme but can for a short distance. I do not get any rub with triming the FD as I ride.

I usually have to click twice to get off the big ring and then shift to trim as needed. I have to shift twice usually to get back on if I don't trim, is that pretty standard? I guess I am thinking do most standard doubles require just one shift up and one shift down?

I guess I can set it to shift once up and once down but then I do not get all the back cogs without chain rub. How do you all set up your compact cranks? I hope what I am explaining makes sense.

I almost wonder if I would be better off with a standard double since in the flatlands I never really need to go to low? Sometimes into a huge headwind like yestarday I might stay in the 34/15 for a while but I could push a bigger gear.