Originally Posted by thehammerdog

Ok, now that everything carbon made that we mortals get to ride is made in Asia by the same bunch of fellas is there truly a difference in quality, ride and brand loyalty. I miss the good old days of USA made stuff Vs. european made stuff and later the Asian made stuff. Each seemed to be different..I own a nice carbon bike but wonder if most of it is really the same crap sans a few higher end brand stuff that uses very costly carbon made by Mitsubishi is it not all just the same?

I an eager to hear some opinions