It's funny I needed two new kits for this season to just train in so I was going to get two Hammer Nutrition kits but decided to just pick up a kit from a local shop made by capo and spend the extra $80 versus the Bergamo shorts Hammer Kit. All the Capo kits from the shop had holes developing where the chamois is sewn in. So now I have a Capo kit that probably won't get as much life out of the shorts, yet my Voler kits never give me ANY problems. I'm starting to think that Voler might be extremely underrated. All my Louie Garneu stuff has been total junk and I've had quite a few problems with Capo's quality control.