Mike For some reason I recall you and Dave trying to convince me how convenient trirail was up in W.Palm.Seriously what is your beef with trirail as I was thinking of taking trirail/metrorail/bus connection to Florida City the next time I did a Keys trip(by the way I know the problem with the bus lol) . Possibly we could head done there for a ride one weekday or weekend(I would have to play it by ear as to when on weekday)as I woundn't mind a ride there either (Key Biscane etc.)but suggested PBCounty for convience and less traffic for oceanrider.Is there a decent 20 mile or so ride in Miami .Now that I think about it Old Cutler Road seemed nice and we could probably cut thruogh Coconut Grove to Key Biscane.What do you all think .It is not something we have to do right away I just thought it might be a good idea sometime before a lengthy tour.