My box had a 10 x 2 inch hole punch through from the out side and I used the same box and packaging as another bike I recieved from a shop via fedex.

The next time I pack a bike I'm going to go over board with the packing material... is there any thing you can get to keep the fork and the rear wheel triangle from getting bent... I've read that you can cut wood blocks but thats a lot of work.

My local shop charges $50 to pack a bike plus shipping which would increase shipping by 30 to 50%. Well lessons learned thanks for the input