Carleton, yea my tastes are a bit too nice for my budget sometimes. Doesn't keep me down too much. Money isnt the biggest issue right now I just try not to spend it but when it comes to bikes my pockets have huge wholes, even when I'm broke... My girlfriend hates it... Though she gets all my hand me downs heh... Anyway, as far as that hub goes the cogs are actually less than most regular cogs and way faster to change, and seeing as I'm tired of changing the traditional ones it seems like a good idea to me.

So you think the prebuilt deep-v and formula comba is good for the time being? not usually a prebuilt fan but I must say my current back wheel (a redline hub an alex rim got from a friend cheep) has held up damn well considering what I usually do to wheels...

I love all the bikes you listed though my biggest concern is taking such a nice bike on the street. As I said this is my everything ride and I dont want to feel like I need to baby it. Also can you recommend any forks around $100 that are carbon and can handle me? Or would looking at a steel/aluminum carbon combo be good? Also how is the lateral strength?

I had never ridden an aluminum track/fixed bike before and actually on a ride tonight a friend had his out, a Specialized Langster. I took it for a spin and damn aluminum is so responsive! He is only a little lighter than me too which makes me comfortable.

Tofu I will try and find a shop that has a Rush I can take for a spin but after all the steel I have owned I need to see if I can flex it... If only I could find a some of the frames Carleton mentioned to try too... I think I will love aluminum, its more trying to find a good frame and price combo.

Can anyone say which of the above frames can handle daily street riding better than the others? Or is there one that can that is not listed? A fork that can handle that too would be nice heh...

Thank you for the help so far, I'm slowly getting closer to what I am going to get...