I will pass on the information my LBS gave to me. I was deciding between the Felt F70 and the Marin Veniza. The F70 had better components and the Veniza had arguably a better frame. My thought was invest in the frame and in 5 years I can upgrade the components. My LBS told me that I will notice more of a difference in the better components now and in 5 years I will want a frame better than the Marin. It made sense once I heard it but I could not figure it out myself. I purchased the F70 and love it. That is just my two cents.