I have the B17 Special in green the first one I had I did not know how to set it up and I sold it.So after a while I had to give it one more try and I am glad I did.It is very comfortable now that I got set up just right.And both of my B17 saddle came with a Brooks cover for them.Proofide is the only thing I will use on my Brooks B17.I am also working on building my self a mountain bike and it will have a B17 on it as well once you know how to set them up for your butt you will never ride another saddle.Brooks all the way for me now.