I have to tell you, I am really pissed.

I received today from Velo-orange the Japanese hammer-strike bell. It's worthless to me as it is no louder than the one I had. I couldn't believe people called this "loud", so I did some research.

Turns out there are 2 look-alike versions of this bell. One measures 2" across and has a hexagonal nut on top. (as shown in post #5 above) The other measures about 1.8" across and has a rivet on top.

The 2" bell (with hex nut) is reputed to be twice as louid as the 1.8" bell (with rivet).

The one that velo orange has is the smaller, less loud one. An outfit called Velofred shows the good one on their website and I sent them an email to verify the size and hex nut.

The message here is if you want LOUD do NOT buy from Velo-orange.

$26 counting bell, mount, and shipping. I never bother to return stuff, but in this case I'll make an exception.