If you get the underwear by Andiamo the ones I got are the longer ones and ebikestop has them for $17.95 I can wear them all day and they don't feel like you have a diaper on but have just enough padding to help on the bike big time. The briefs may be ok but the Novaro by REI is cut too high in the front and just feel weird. Besides REI stuff is too expensive unless you get them on sale. They usually only have the white ones instead of the black, or at least everytime I have been in the store to get them they only had the white.
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(Life is too short to play crappy guitars) 2006 Raleigh Cadent 3.0, 1977 Schwinn Volare, 2010 Windsor tourist. ( I didn't fall , I attacked the floor)