Well I passed on the 17" Kona dj bike. I'm glad you guys set me straight before I went through the hassle of trying to return that sucker when I found out it was too big. I also went to a few more shops and it seem even a 17" xc/trail bike is a tad too big for me. The top tubes of the 17's come right up to my crotch and that doesnt seem right. I'm thinking about a 16" kona cinder cone now and maybe trying a few Specialized and GT bikes as well. Thanks for the help guys.