Originally Posted by
Metzinger
To be honest, I usually roll up to the intersection, check if there's cross traffic, then roll through.
That's what two years in Holland can do to a previously conscientious rider.
Uh oh, the nannies will be by any time now to hit your hands with their rulers!
I stop at the red, and generally stay wherever I was riding. I tend to pay just as much attention to the cars as I did when I rode my motorcycle, and I don't see any difference except I'm turning the wheels now, where before it was a big old motor, and I was a lot fatter

. Oh, and I get to ride the shoulder if I want.
Joe