Pete,
Actually people like you, Cambronne, MichaelW, Mike, Steve, Cheryl, Jean, etc., are the elders of the BikeForums in cycling years. We older beginners are learning from all of you.

And isn't the proper spelling:

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rather than

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See, Grump, we have to keep these young ones in line.