OK, where did I leave this one. GP is out (wise man ) and Mr. Beanz doesn't give a rata's culo about organized rides anymore . Hey Rick, I couldn't figure out from your post if you are coming. Now that you've been riding less and doing more good deeds (like driving SAG on Planet Ultra's events) maybe 72-mile ride doesn't look that wussy to you . Rob, I would be glad to give you a ride but unfortunately my "Ferrari" can't fit two bikes. It looks like only Calamarichris is considering it seriously but he will finish the 72 miles and his beer allowance while I'm still busy with the 60 miles.