I pulled my new frame and fork out of the box, brand new and started scraping all the decals off! I dont know what got into me but I am not one for trends or glitter-glam but I rode a friends LHT 4 years ago and now I have had mine for allmost that long. Yea if I had the money I would be riding a legend but I have not one bad thing to say bout Surly. One day we may find the Surlys of today to be the legends in time.