Ahh yes you're right i have a 08 xenon, and thank you for the information about the Veloce shifters. I forgot to mention its $70 for a pair i believe, and the cheapest i can find for some new veloce group is around 160 with shipping. Is it still worth it in your opinion?

And my xenon levers are currently a 10spd matched up with my 9spd tiagra rear derailleur and working fine currently, do the new generations of campys have a different amount of cable pull? And what would the campy equivalent of the veloce be in the shimano line?