Originally Posted by
ddez
Using Buick as a analogy for being slow is not a good choice. Buick has produced some incredibly fast cars actually. And as far as being modern some of the new models looks an awful lot like european car styles to me.
My surly pacer is much faster than my CAAD9 or my Kuota racing bikes on any ride longer than 90 miles, due to the comfort factor. It is actually a very good road bike, and set up with Ultegra and all carbon bits, carbon fork, and light wheels I have mine at 17.5 pounds