Originally Posted by
EchtoGammut
OP Thanks for a good story. I have learned many things in my short tenure with this forum, amongst which includes:
1) No matter how much it appears I am racing someone on a ride, there is good chance he is just training,

2) If I tell a story, make sure I consider that I will have an expert review it.
3) You cannot be hardcore enough, unless you too hardcore, then you might be a Fred (which btw appears to have a floating meaning that varies from thread to thread).
Yes, be sure to insert comments to clearly explain your intentions cause they will lhelp you later when the hatin starts. You can go back and say look, right her I said, "I had no idea I was racing" etc. ....
Your #1 reminds me of another similar story to the one I posted.
Wife and I on our usual 50 miler maybe few years ago. She on a 1984 Bianchi that I bought for $80. On the return trip we causually ride by a couple dudes.
WE WERE NOT RACING AND UNAWARE (see what I did there?

). My wife always rides my wheel so I control the pace, usually pushing her just enough to improve but never enough to drop her. Well, 5 miles later we roll into a park to refill the waterbottles. About 1 mintue later one of the dudes rolls up and says, "dam, I couldn't catch up with your wife". My wife

..She's just riding my wheel and had no idea someone was "RACING" her.
So he says "well because she's on a Bianchi". I couldn't help but laugh, "dude, you're on an expensive Cinelli with a $1000 wheelset and we only paid $80 for this thing plus another $100 for the rear wheel". Then he said, "well I am 48 years old". Again I laughed and said, "she's 45". Then he said, "well I have a grandchild" so I said "we have 3".
He still didn't stop there, "well I was sick last year with the flu". So I got him with the "she donated a kidney last year". She showed the 10 inch scar on her side, that one pretty much got him, he finally gave up!.
Again, it's funny when you don't know it but others are concerned with racing againt you or your wife.
And for the record, I have no problem with friendly comp on the trial, but let me know so I can play too.

If you win. I'll shake your hand and say, "you were better". Just don't challenge me the day after 5-10,000 ft of climbing, cause I'm just chillin'.