ah.....yes....i think i see now.

i just loosend them up and was able to move the slightly.....

thanks for the quick reply. Ive got some wicked feet pointing outward issues naturally from the looks of things. IM going to try turning the cleats in so my feet track out a bit and see if things in my knees get better. It doesnt feel unnatural the way it is now and im pedaling but im ending up with sore knees for days after a ride of about 24 miles. Maybe it is just spring legs but i pounded out 24 miles or so last monday.....it is now 8 days later and i can still feel it in my knees.

The whole time nothing felt out of place but i suppose when your doing the same motion 15000 times over the course of a ride your legs dont let you know right away.