Originally Posted by
Wogsterca
Often though, surfaces we assume are level are not.

Just happened to me last weekend. I was installing my old kitchen cabinets in the garage and I "leveled" then with a level as I hung them. Well when I finished and looked they were tilted pretty bad. Turns out the ceiling was not level. I then measured off the ceiling and they are "level" to that so they look good.
Sorry for going OT ..back to you regularly scheduled thread.