Thanks for the replies. I've got Firefox also. I'll try again. What gps device are you using? The example I gave was with bikeroutetoaster. I've got a got a lot to learn. I am researching a gps that has bicycling as an alternative routing and will give voice prompts. What I'm looking at is Nuvi and TomTom just for navigation only. Want to be able to plot out a route and then download it to my gps and print out a route sheet for backup