All great suggestions, thanks guys I really appreciate it. I will check the chainring bolts tonight
1. I don't think the chain is too short, it came with the bike, I did check for stretch and there isn't much yet.
2. The FD should be aligned perfectly, not saying it isn't but it should be. I had several wrenches look at it.
3. I will dbl check the trim but it seems to be working as it should
4. The chain is a SRAM PC1070, I have a KMC chain in waiting, I could throw that on and give it a try
5. As for lube, possibly, I notice it doesn't happen all the time, the drive train definitely feels a lot smoother after a nice lube (duh). I can't get it to happen at will, the other day it did not happen the whole ride, the following day it did, I took it to the LBS, he made a few minor tweaks to the FD, I took it for a test spin, could not make it happen. Raced yesterday and after a few laps it would do it every time I got in that gearing and was under load. Maybe I'm just pushing harder in the race and that pressure causes it???
6. I'm thought about giving the Force crankset a go and see what happens.
Thanks again, this is my first visit to this section of the forums and I got great suggestions already!