Originally Posted by
preston811
So we have mihlback recommending WT despite never owning one or any BD bike, and Gyeswho you said you feel a Surly frame would be a downgrade? I'm just curious how, besides the braze-ons/eyelets. Is it really the perfect bike, no downsides at all? How is the paint on BD bikes? The paint on the Surly is pretty solid in my experience.
It's not a perfect bike, but its pretty good for my uses. I only say the Surly is a downgrade only due to have a lower tire clearance which limits you a little. Also like you said it lacks braze-ons (I know not everyone will care, but I just like the idea of having options). I am all for Steamrollers though. I actually ordered a steamroller, but when I saw the WT (price, more tire clearance) the day after ordering the Surly, I canceled the order and got the WT instead. I was biased toward the fat tire room.
Regarding toe overlap, since I've only riddern 40mm and 50mm tires on it, overlap is going to be a thing because I'm pushing it to the max. I think if I were switch out to a tire that's like 30mm, the toe overlap would disappear.