I'll be curious to hear what comes of the reviews on Apex. I think the gearing notion that many of the releases focused on is a way to sell Apex to Triple riders. In reality, I think Sram needs Apex to try to move in to the OEM market. Part of that is going to be meeting the needs of more types of riders, the other larger part is just having a group that can be put on $1000-1200 bikes.