Originally Posted by atbman

What I would like to hear, however, is why they seem to have had experience of the dangers of obeying the lights, which have led to them justifying ignoring them, when others of us have had very few such experiences.

Originally Posted by bemoore

There are two red lights with the same situation on my previous commute (one each way) that I would always run. I needed to turn left, and both lights had turn lanes, but my bike would never trip the sensor. The light would turn green for opposing traffic's straight and turning directions, then after a delay, my direction would get a green, but no turn arrow. And I'd get the green right when the next clump of traffic arrived from the opposing direction. So I'd have to wait for a gap in traffic (which was often never), or go through when the light changed (and try to sprint to get out of the way of crossing traffic). OR... I could just go through in the large gap in traffic that occurred while I had the red. Sorry, but safety wins.