wait a minute, i bought a seagull black bag after making some decisions based on this thread saved up a bit extra bought a large and i've got to say its amazing. its big and has more then enough store room for anything. my only complaint is that it doesn't seem to have a thick pocket because its a tight squeeze when you carry bigger things that have a more square box shape to them because the bags main pocket doesn't go out enough. Besides that its an amazing bag and i really don't seem to find a problem with it when its empty to boot and i'm tall and lanky which made me think it would be uncomfortable.