They are definitely a bit on the heavier side but I actually like that about my Madison. I'm a heavy dude (200 lbs) and after riding my Maddy, I realized how much my Kilo flexed under me when riding. Not that there is anything wrong with a Kilo - it's a great frameset - I just felt I needed something a little sturdier. I've read some stuff that says Madisons have sloppy welds, bad finishes, etc. but the quality of mine is on point. Plus, I dig that it's a Schwinn. Kind of oddball (like me).