First of all, I offered the MuP8 and Speed P8's for consideration based on experience and the fact that tomtri's style of touring appears very similar to ours. My wife and I, both 68 years old, completed the 350 mile tour described in the above link with only one mechanical problem, a flat tire. If you don't believe that link, how about the 450 mile Erie Canal, Buffalo to Albany. The only issue there was one tightening of the frame hinge.

Secondly, it would have been more helpful if your two posts were combined. Whether someone offers a positive or negative opinion, it helps to provide context. With the second post, it is easy to see that the P8's don't fit you and that they are uncomfortable for you, things Tomri needs to take into consideration, but both highly subjective aspects of a bicycle. Simply saying "no way" doesn't provide much useful information.

A further comment. We have traveled with both bikes in airline legal suitcases (62 total inches), although this did require removing the wheels. Note: I was travelling on Amtrak. I haven't flown since the airlines started charging $$$ for bikes, nor do I know how the TSA guys would treat them.

PS. I agree that riding out of an airport is the a great way to go; and we've done it in Amsterdam, Zurich, Salzburg, and Vienna.