Just curious Adam: How much do you weigh? Did you treat it with Proofide during break-in, as recommended? How much weight, percentage-wise goes on your butt on your bike?

On my Flyer, it was completely uncomfortable for the first 20-50 miles or so. I could only ride short rides for that period. Now, it is at around 170 miles and is already more comfortable than stock, and as comfortable as any other "high end" saddle I've had. (usually gel models) Since it is sprung, I figure it will take twice as long to fully break in compared to a standard model, since the springs are absorbing some energy that the leather would otherwise absorb. So when folks say it will take 1000 miles, I think that is to be fully broken in. But it should be usable for longer rides after 50 miles or so.

Is it possible you didn't have it angled right? They are different compared to padded saddles. Too far forward, and you'll be sliding off and having huge weight on your hands & wrists. Too far back, and you'll get perineal pressure that hurts the prostate area. It's got to be perfect for a Brooks.

Sorry to hear it didn't work for you. Forgive us Brooks fans who are so pushy. It is just that we are so happy with them, it is hard for us to imagine they wouldn't work for everyone.