Originally Posted by
noglider
I was a mechanic from 1978 through 1984, and at the time, a lugless frame was very low end. Whenever I saw a rare high-end lugless frame, it was hard for me to wrap my mind around the fact that it wasn't crappy, like a department store bike.
That's very true. I remember as a kid you could pretty much tell whether a bike sucked or not by whether or not it had lugs. Rarely was there an exception.