All haters, and people who live in cities where they have tons of independent businesses to ruin aside, I own one..well sort of, I got it for 100 bucks and it was to big for me. I wanted it so I could can parts from it for a conversion to take to school so I wouldn't have to worry about my nice bike getting stolen. The frame wasn't bad...metal shavings in the bottom bracket, and wheels (lol.) The components are less than stellar but just as good, if not better than a se draft