Originally Posted by LoRoK

I'd like to give a counter-point to erichsia's SWRVE knicker review. First off, let me say the customer service they gave me was top notch. That said, it was the worst pair of "cycling" specific clothing I've ever owned. I'm not a huge guy, but the sprinter's cut was too tight on me. Also, the legs were much too short, and the articulated knee ended up being an articulated mid-thigh. But the worst, worst, worst thing about these was the huge knot of fabric where the inseams met, right at the taint, right, perfectly, specifically where it couldn't possibly be any more uncomfortable on a bike saddle. I couldn't wear these if I was going to be riding more than 3-4 miles, which is like never.

On the other hand, the Oregon Cycle Wear Messenger knicks are cheap, last forever, and super comfy. I have an older pair (2, maybe 3 years old) where they had crappy zippers on the side pockets. Those broke off pretty quickly. However, beyond that, they're perfect. I would like to wear them every day, but my friends notice.