My Cross Check, modern ergo bars:



One of my Centurions:



The Pinarello:





The Guercitto, it will have a high saddle and low bars is apparent:



My future hobo bike:




The distance from the BB center to the crown of the saddle is always the same on my bikes so that I have the same leg extension adjusted only for different shoes, cleats, pedals and fore/aft position requirements and to some degree crank arm length. They are all very much the same.