Originally Posted by EjustE
b. There are leather saddles that are fine out of the box: Regals and Rolls.
I've never had laid hands on one of these but have seen plenty here on C&V. They look to be leather coverings over some sort of base which holds the rails. I assume the base is plastic. But I could be wrong. I should have clarified,
"100% leather and metal saddles."
When I ride I usually wear cycle shorts with the thinnest chamois pad possible. I've come to the conclusion that Brooks fit some people, "butt" not all. Personally, I find that any gel saddle is always painful.
Originally Posted by Andrew F
Must be? Your Swift looks like it's been used a bit but your Blue professional looks fresh from the box!
The Swift Titanium was a CL find. The original owner tried to break it in for about 500 miles and then gave up. IIRC, I paid $75. I think he used some oil on it to soften it up, which caused the discoloring, and is a no-no.

"Butt" the price was right!
The Blue Professional was a new purchase last fall. It now has about 750 miles on it and looks brand new. I have a Honey Professional that has 3+ years on it and looks to be NIB as well.