Does anybody know anything about this saddle? Padded version

I intend to use it with a bib or skinsuit on my track bike, and maybe with the road bike too.

The ones I have are the traditional shape, and they are death to my balls.
Here is one: http://bontrager.com/model/07135
And the other: http://2009.feltracing.com/08/image.asp?pid=8716
It's not the angle or the height...I've tried all that already.

I tried a San Marco Concor and it was "very niiiice," but I want to see reviews on the Kashimax too.