Dnvr Fox...you did read my post correct. I ride around Ft. Collins. Horsetooth, Estes Park, Up the canyon. I have never ridden, the mountains. And I have never ridden the mtn bike trails. My goal for next year is to ride the Courage Classic. I choose that ride because my daughter is spending alot of time at Children's Hospital and this ride benefits that. I have 3 children and don't get the leisure to take off multiple days for bike rides. That is why I stay around Ft. Collins. There are alot of challenging climbs for me there. For shame...living in Colo and not taking advantage of the mountains.