Old 06-17-10 | 10:25 AM
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Bikes: 72 Peugeot UO-8, 82 Peugeot TH8, 87 Bianchi Brava, 76? Masi Grand Criterium, 74 Motobecane Champion Team, 86 & 77 Gazelle champion mondial, 81? Grandis, 82? Tommasini, 83 Peugeot PF10

Originally Posted by milky
Blue UO8?
Nice looking bike. Is that an original UO-8 pump? And how is it hung there behind the ST? It looks too big to be original.

Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
I too like matching groups...
There is aesthetic value in consistency but my real reaction is "Group? What group?" The point being, back in the old days only the high-end bikes were consistent in having all Campy or Zeus. As I recall, my UO-8 came with Normandy hubs, Rigida rims, Hutchinson tires, Atom skewers, Atom freewheel, Normandy pedal (I think), Nervar crank, chain unknown, Simplex derailleurs, AVA stem, unknown bar, Mafac brakes. On a different brand bike the derailleurs might have been Huret. Or the brakes or rims Weinmann. Okay so mine were all French, but there the commonality stops. As the bike aged and components were replaced there was no motivation to stick to a "group" because there was none to start with other than the "French group". In 1980 one would have been silly to replace the RD with another Simplex when Suntour was available, better, and inexpensive.

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I am prompted to post these thoughts partly by the thread defining a "Fred" in another forum (probably Road Cycling). The two inconsistencies of ideas are disturbing.

First, a bike is nothing if not practical. Everything on it has a purpose and is the way it is for a reason, even if the reasons are minor and change over time as experience, technology, and materials improve. Some details are so minor that one will never notice them one way or the other unless many ounces add up to pounds. If components are chosen for aesthetics, then that's a valid reason too. After all, some of us drive 40-year-old cars with original components for the same aesthetics. Yet derision apparently exists in some corners of bike culture for people whose bikes have mismatched components, but without regard for or even knowledge of why the mismatch exists. (I have Vx derailleurs matched to Dura-Ace DT levers on a British frame! The reason is lost in antiquity, I'm afraid, but most likely it is because someone gave me the levers or they were already on the frame when I got it.)

Second and more bothersome is the contradiction between posting occasionally that it doesn't matter what others think while maintaining a convention which criticizes others because their equipment or clothing choices differ from the norm, i.e. from what the Fred-caller thinks they should be. Heaven forbid someone would mix blue bar tape and a red jersey.

I'll ride what I own, mismatched levers and all, wear what I like (mostly for sun protection and visibility), and secretly think those plastic sloped-DT bikes look like kids' bikes. But I won't tell their owners that because I respect the technology and their right to make their own choices and because it will be strictly my preference which I am perfectly free to entertain. Aesthetics is in the mind of the viewer, rider, or thinker.
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Now, if someone were to give me a set of Suntour DT levers I might take the time to swap them. For now though, it ain't broke so I ain't gonna' fix it (yet).
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