Originally Posted by soonerbills

Polishing and waxing a frame without first cleaning it is kinda like wiping after pulling up your pants...

Not that anyone here would fit that profile

You are really better off by doing Ia thorough cleaning before the rubbing paste comes out. I have found that using soap and water is good but a better item is "Scrubs in a bucket" which are available at most hardware stores and Sam's and some others as well. Those scrubs really pull off crap that other methods don't and make the amount of rubbing compound needed in later rounds less. IMHO