Originally Posted by
wheelgrabber
Simple Green 50/50 H20 in one of the plastic clip on chain cleaners. Simple Green removes grease and oil better than solvents, engine degreaser or citrus degreaser. Diluted 10:1 it will clean all of the road gunk and oil spray off your frame. It is the only thing that really gets a muddy mountain bike clean.
Thanks

I'll have to try the simple green. I know on the Park chain tool package it mentions some of that dish detergent stuff too. Seems like dilluted simple green is the gold standard though for cheap degreasers.
Originally Posted by
operator
I find it hilarious that people are wasting so much effort into chain cleaning, a chain that is worth $10-$30 wholesale (10/11s systems). Just wipe it down with a rag, lube sparingly and ride your ****ing bike. Christ.

I chuckled a bit when I read this. You Aussies get straight to the point, eh? But yeah, I see your point. I've ridden an older road bike...it was a decent bike alledgedly back in the 70's, but it hadn't been maintained at all....no chain cleaning, no lubing, no adjustments...I thought the chain was going to fly off during shifting. The Trek 7.3FX feels like you're riding on clouds. This is the first non-$50-at-a-garage sale bike I've ridden, so I want to keep it running like clockwork.