Ah, I think I should put things into perspective here based on my test rides in the last two days. Turns out, the bike I'm now is crazy-bat****-insane laid out. I didn't know this until a guy at one of the shops had me get into position on a road racing frame and it was actually more upright than what I'm used to. So "upright" to me seems to mean something like a typical road bike posture, not upright like a hybrid or comfort bike.