I just got a pro for my new fixie build, an old Lugged Lambert. I got the saddle from a friend who said it was like riding on a brick. 1st 23 miles hurt as did the second ride in the rain. I got Proofide with it and added a bunch of coats letting it soak in. I also angled the front up just a nudge. (very important) I got back from 15 miles and my ass feels great. I even rode with dirty cutoff jeans. It feels much like my B17 but the leather still isn't as soft. Its getting there. I did not have the Proofide for my B17 so I used neats foot oil to soften it. I would treat the leather, don't be shy it will darken it but thats when it gets softer. also it really helps to angle the front up a little.