Originally Posted by
thdave
you can tell from those pics that the frame sucks? Goofy. I'm an engineer and all I can tell is that it doesn't have lugs. The weld is only shown in one image and it's the farthest point from the camera. There's no into to be had on weld quality from that pic.
If you define "weld quality" as integrity of the joint, then yeah, I agree, there's no info on weld quality in that pic. However, if you determine "weld quality" from an aesthetic perspective as I do, it's plain to see it's a low grade, inexpensive, cheaply mass produced frame, or in other words, a POS.
Your probably not a bicycle engineer, huh? You can only tell it's lug-less? I mean, you can't tell it's not brazed, either?