Originally Posted by ClarkinHawaii

If i don't have them mixed up with somebody else, I believe I went to their website and their prices were way higher than habernero, which I think is an OK company and who i will probably end up using. Of course, Hab's frames are definitely made in China and i've heard it said they're made by XACD. But mark is an OK Dude and patiently helpful, so he's probably worth $500 more than XACD, since with him there's a really good chance of getting an excellent frame that will serve me perfectly. One little glitch in the XACD plans and I've spent $700 on a large paperweight.