Originally Posted by
Zaphod Beeblebrox
It kind of seems to me that the compromise with a VO frame is that you're stuck with 650B. with a 27" or 700C frame you could convert it to 650B and if you get tired of it you can do it up a different way with 700C.
My modern Raleigh One-Way has all the same brazeons as the VO frame. Matter of fact you can get a pretty similar bike to the polyvalent in the new Raleigh Clubman

its got pretty much everything the VO frame does except you could (presumably) convert it to 650B or and go back to 700C when you got tired of it.
i've got nothing against velo-orange, i use a lot of their products...i just don't like this frame.
I'm by no means a total fan of the VO frames, but they do have something few others offer - pretty low trail. The Raleigh might have the braze-ons, but looking at that fork, it can't have the high rake/low trail. The VO frames really are rather specialized.