I stated my position in the PM, denver. It was political. If anyone wants access to P&R, I'll happily let you in. It's actually pretty fun in there, really. The discussions can get intense, but they are intellectually stimulating.....not just stupid trolling, anymore.
I'm closing this thread now.
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. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
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