Originally Posted by
itsthewoo
At 20 mph, I sincerely doubt you'll be doing more than an occasional back and forth. Also, again with the ad hominem attack. Did you have a particularly bad day and feel the need to take it out on someone?
Don't bet on it. I've been on rides where we were carrying on casual conversation at 24mph. And other rides where it was impossible at 10mph (climbing). It depends on the situation and strength of the riders.
I don't mind if folks want to draft, but I expect them to pull also, and I expect them to strike up a conversation first and ask. It's not ok to jump on the wheel and assume the person in front is ok with it. Folks that do that should not expect to have obstacles pointed out or signals of any sort. Jumping on without permission is rude, whether you agree or not.