Originally Posted by Walter

I'm going to request a cease-fire on the 33 v 41 arguments. As has been pointed out they are an artificial construct anyways. By that I mean they are based on stereotypes and straw-man positions and by their nature they don't reflect real positions.

Assumedly, we all (posters in both forums)ride on the road and I doubt anyone rides only when he's racing or training. In other words, there's much more in common than not.

Furthermore I'd ask some members who seem to find it impossible to avoid excessively worrying about whether or not someone else is an "elitist" to acquaint themselves with the Ignore function. It's not perfect but it works pretty well and God knows it's one thing I miss using once I agreed to be a Mod.

Finally, any member may post in both the 33 and the 41. If you don't race at all you may not find the most interesting threads there (the 33) but so long as you're not trolling feel free. Anyone who rides on the road (including racers) should find good threads in the 41. Sometimes there's alot of chaff with the wheat but internet BB sites are that way.

This post is somewhat vague on purpose as I don't want to call people out publicly but I'll become more direct if this pointless and silly "debate" continues.