Very true,
Most of the week I ride/train on my classic steel bikes, which I bought cheap then built up. One for wet days, one for training. I use the good bike for Hammerfests and racing. What has surprised me is when some of my white collar riding friends bring their expensive CF bikes to a ride and I check the weight...they're not really that much lighter than a properly sorted classic bike.

I have to remember that this is mainly an American forum and though our cultures are similar there are some subtle Aussie diversities that are misunderstood...... hence umd considering me being a wanker..... mentally.
I've been berated on here in the past because some guys just don't get the Aussie sense of humor or stirring.