test rode the secteur comp today... it is the only one that comes from the factory with 64 cm frame... also rode the elite with the double tap shifters without the carbon seat stays and zerts... yes, i noticed a difference, is it worth the 200 price tag... yet to be determined....

without trying to notice, i have never had complaints about my current bike... but i test rode with 'racier' saddles today and my TRI shorts... as opposed to my current bike with thicker padded gel shorts, and a avatar body geometry gel saddle (with zerts)

some of my decision will be made by merely frame size availability... the tarmac/allez do not come in a 64cm... There was about 4 fists full of seat tube when i got on the 61,