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High roller is confused as to why this forum was created. it is to quarantine the vehicular cycling advocacy discussion out of the mature forum, as the vc contingent and their "noisy, aggressive and destructive' dystopic bicycling message interferes with reasonable discussion.

the vc message was the cause for creating this forum.

Originally Posted by copenhagenize blog
It is a small, yet vocal, group that is male-dominated, testosterone-driven and that lacks basic understanding of human nature. They expect that everyone should be just like them - classic sub-cultural point of view - and that everyone should embrace cycling in traffic and pretending they are cars. They are apparently uninterested in seeing grandmothers, mothers or fathers with children or anyone who doesn't resemble then contributing to re-creating the foundations of liveable cities by reestablishing the bicycle as transport.

Calling them a Sect is cheeky, sure. But so many aspects of this group resemble a sect. They have a Guru or two, whom they seem to worship. There's John Forester in the US and John Franklin, to a lesser extent, in the UK. Their numbers are few but they are noisy. They are aggressive. And their influence is destructive..........

There is nowhere in the world where this theory has become practice and caused great numbers of citizens to take to the roads on a daily basis. It remains a theoretical manifesto for a fringe group of cyclists. They often refer to themselves as 'bicycle drivers'. Vroom Vroom.
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They are unable to see that when you have a large percentage of the population riding bicycles, the benefits to society are overwhelmingly positive. They are also blind to the developments in Emerging Bicycle Cultures like French cities, Spanish cities and even cities like Dublin, Portland, New York, Philadelphia, etc etc. People are returning to the bicycle thanks to infrastructure and taming of the bull. All over the world..............Can we call these people bicycle advocates? I'm not sure..

the problem isn't bicycling advocacy that has created this forum, it was the rants of the VC and the incessant drumbeat of their fantasies.

Its a place for the VC to come in and blatantly lie and mislead about traffic laws, etc. (misleading about maryland traffic law, CVC 21202, etc....)

can we call these people bicycle advocates? not so sure......

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